The War in Iraq - a Prophetic View

Chuck Pierce is a recognized prophet of God.  I have met but do NOT have a personal relationship with him.  I trust that he hears from Father and so when he writes I listen.  C Peter Wagner is the Apostle he works with.  Some of what Dr Wagner writes is more declarative and not prophetic.  In other words, he's giving his opinion, not God's. 

But I think it's all worth reading.  I think there is even deeper meaning to the whole Iraq War and if we don't understand it we will have made a grave mistake. 

Gene

 

May 14, 2007

Chuck Pierce with C. Peter Wagner:

"IRAQ--A NEED FOR UNDERSTANDING AND INSIGHT NOW!"

Dear Friends:

I want to thank you for praying for me as I completed God's Unfolding Battle Plan. That book should be out this Fall. Writing God's Unfolding Battle Plan caused me to have to look at the unfolding events of conflict in the world for the next 20 years. While writing these past few weeks, I developed a greater concern for our nation. One of my burdens is how the war in Iraq seems to be filled with endless confusion and destruction. When I was visiting Colorado Springs last month, I asked C. Peter Wagner to give me his opinion of the war that we are fighting in Iraq, which I share below. I am also including the dream I had after 9/11. This dream revealed how a new plan was moving forward for our nation, but how we were on thin ice. If we moved out of time with wrong revelation, we could actually crash, and the whole nation could be severely damaged. After you read this dream, look at Peter's opinion and insights on the war. Please pray NOW!

THE U.S. PUZZLE DREAM

On September 24, 2001, I dreamed the following: I was standing looking at a huge lake. The lake was covered with a coat of thin ice. A puzzle piece would drop from Heaven and I would walk out upon the icy lake and put the piece in place. Before long, I recognized the puzzle that was covering the lake was a map of the United States. I finally laid the last piece of the puzzle in place. It was the state of New Mexico. Once I did that, it was as if I ascended three levels into the heavens. The best way to describe this ascension was a staircase that would go up. At each floor there was a meeting room where I would watch a counsel convening and discussing their plans. I would then walk up to the next level. These meetings were governmental type meetings. I would watch these meetings as they occurred.

THREE LEVELS OF COUNCIL MEETINGS

The first government council was the council of the enemy. His government was unable to see the plan of destiny that was in place over this nation. In this meeting they continued to plan and plot their wicked schemes over how to disrupt and bring chaos. On the next floor was the council of civil governments. These were able to better understand the present times and issues regarding the United States, and were discussing how to protect this nation. The third floor held the council of God. His government had been called into council over how to advance His Kingdom in the United States.

I BEGAN TO YELL, "NOT YET! NOT YET!"

On this floor I was able to walk into the council and see all the key issues regarding the United States and its future. Because I was at a higher level, I could fully see the key places in the United States where the Church needed to reinforce itself. I could also see key cities that needed to be on "watch" against the enemy's plan. It seemed as if I could also see the time frame that was necessary for the Church to intercede so that the wisdom of God could come into full maturity and be executed in the earth realm. While I was watching from this third floor, someone from the second floor began to approach the puzzle map that was in place upon the lake. I began to yell, "Not yet! Not yet!" He could not hear my voice and proceeded without caution, causing the ice to break, and the entire puzzle plan fell into the lake.

I awakened. The Spirit of God began to speak to me and give me a portion of the interpretation of the dream. He said, "I have a clear plan for America. I am calling the Body of Christ into a new, mature strength. I am calling My people into intercession NOW. This plan will produce victory in days ahead, and will bring justice that will affect the world. I am calling My people to pray for the civil government of this land. I am a God who puts leaders in place. I have positioned the leadership of this nation for such a time as this. Even though the civil government is gaining a clearer direction of My purpose, the plan that is forming and maturing is on very thin ice at this time.

"The civil government of this nation has developed a unity and is gaining timely wisdom. Unless my people pray, this plan will not be in firm place to advance, and much destruction can occur. If My people who are called by My name will pray, not only will I heal and secure their land, but from their land I will touch the world in an incredible way, reveal My Glory, and call forth My inheritance in every nation. I can foil the plans of the enemy that are set against cities in this nation and cause many cities to experience a sweeping move of My Spirit. However, the civil government of this nation must move in My perfect timing."

I believe this dream was linked with the war on terror that we have been propelled into during this seven-year war season. Even though this dream can have several significant meanings and be for several situations in our nation, I actually believe we moved forward in Iraq to dethrone a strong man that could have worked great destruction in the world. But after uprooting, our plan of rebuilding was weak to none.

Apostles and Prophets are linked together to advance God's army. I asked the apostolic leader that I am aligned with, C. Peter Wagner, to give me his insights on the continuing conflict in Iraq. He submitted the following:

SOME THOUGHTS ON IRAQ

by C. Peter Wagner

The perspective I bring as I express these thoughts is that of a professional missiologist--one who specializes in the cross-cultural communication of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God. My supposition is that there might be some insights from missiology that could help us to understand and pray more clearly about the current situation in Iraq.

Let me be clear that I agree that Saddam Hussein was an international criminal who deserved to be removed and punished. George Bush, the father, should have and could have removed him, but it took George Bush, the son, to do the job.

However the design for rebuilding Iraq was flawed from the beginning because it was based on four questionable assumptions, all of them derived from the premise that if everyone in the world had a free choice they would want to be like Americans and would want their nation to be governed like America. This is very similar to the faulty presumption on the part of early American missionaries that churches all over the world should look and behave like churches in America.

The first questionable assumption was that the government of a nation like Iraq could move from a dictatorship to a democracy in a relatively short time as long as there is a superior military force to impose a new government. Most Americans believed that as soon as Saddam Hussein was removed, there would be rejoicing in the streets all over Iraq, that everyone would embrace democracy, and that Iraq would live happily ever after. The reality is that the transition from totalitarianism to freedom is an extremely slow process that requires a timeline, undoubtedly a much longer one than the corporate patience of America could endure.

The second questionable assumption was that Iraq is a nation and that Iraqi nationalism would trump any internal cultural and religious differences. The reality is that Iraq is only a pseudo-nation, not created by the will of its own people but with boundaries imposed from the beginning by outside forces. Missiologists know that loyalty to the homogeneous cultural unit is, in fact, the highest social loyalty. In Iraq, Kurds, Sunnis and Shiites have a greater loyalty to their respective people group than to their artificial nation. Realistically, they should be regarded as three nations who do not particularly like each other. Think, for example, of trying to create one nation from Germans, French and Spanish.

The third questionable assumption was that democracy and free national elections would produce strong national leadership. The reality is that under Saddam Hussein there was no second in command on a national level. Shiites are the majority and their leadership, with virtually no past experience of leading a nation, would predictably take charge in a democratic election, but they could not expect to be accepted as leaders by the others, especially by the Sunnis. The Sunnis could not use the democratic process to change this, so their resource becomes force.

The fourth questionable assumption was that Allah is just another name for the true God. This was a great victory for the enemy who is attempting to control the spiritual atmosphere over Iraq. The reality is that Allah is a high-ranking demonic spirit who has come to steal, to kill, and to destroy. As long as Iraqi people worship him, he has legal right to accomplish his vile purposes in their nation. Political correctness may attempt to deny this spiritual reality, but it only plays into the hands of the evil principalities and powers over Babylon. Intercessors need to recognize that in the invisible world this is a clash of kingdoms. The question is: Who will rule? The kingdom of darkness or the Kingdom of Light?

In conclusion, it would be well to recognize that "E. Pluribus Unum" has not worked in Iraq, just like it could not work in Yugoslavia. Why, then, did it work in America? It worked because the 13 colonies agreed on a common enemy. They overthrew the enemy from the ground up, not by the will of outside forces. They had strong indigenous leadership such as Washington and Jefferson. They agreed on a national ideology through the Federalist Papers, largely written by Alexander Hamilton. Most of all, they enjoyed the blessing of God. Not all were Christian believers, but none of the founders of America, as far as we know, openly worshiped a false god such as Allah. This cleared the Heavens for the work of the prophetic intercessors and the leaders of the Church and allowed the United States to be established and to succeed.

HOW TO PRAY!

Since Peter has given us the opinion of a missiologist, and since I have an intercessory burden for our nation and troops in Iraq, here are some areas that we can be concentrating on in prayer.

Read Psalm 2, Ephesians 2, and 1 Peter 2

Why do the Nations Rage? I see the Church needs to be on full alert at this time. I see this as a time of revelation. I see that the Lord is calling together spiritual councils and releasing wisdom and direction into the earth realm. I see a need for apostolic leadership in cities to rise up. I see a need for full communication between God's intercessory prophetic dimension and apostolic leaders in the key cities of our nation. I see this is a time that we do not need to debate on whether we should support our government. This is a time that we need to obey the Word of God and pray for those in authority. This is not a time to get caught up in political dissension. Call forth to a Holy God for intervention! Perhaps a key to our nation is the prayers of the apostolic leaders of God's government.

Read Matthew 13 and 25

This is a time for the Church to repent of allowing a political spirit to bring dissension and divide us. I also see that we need to hear a clear message arise from our top officials. When the statue of Saddam Hussein fell, they declared, "We have won the war!" There needs to be a statement made to renounce this and then humbly ask for wisdom over how to redevelop a plan of recovery for the part of the world called Iraq. This declaration of victory has caused us to lose power and credibility in the war. Desolation and destruction has come into the midst of our troops who are battling so bravely against the terror of the future. We as a Church can come into agreement with the Throne Room of Heaven and release revelation to the earth so that civil government will gain clarity of God's purposes of justice in the earth realm. These are times to fully find our footing so we know how to stand in the future. I see that if we gather the revelation God is releasing from Heaven, we can see God's plan shifted into place in the area of the world called Iraq. We can also secure the borders of our states. We must develop a Kingdom mentality.

Read Ezekiel 22, 33 and Daniel 7

I see that God has a plan to rise up the watchman anointing in every key city in our nation. I see the Church standing! If the Church does not find their firm footing at this time, we will see civil government moving outside of God's timing. Daniel 7:25 says, "He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, shall persecute the saints of the Most High, and shall intend to change times and the law." God has a perfect plan of victory, but we must reevaluate how we are watching and what we are seeing. The plan needs to mature. If this plan is moved upon and acted out prematurely, God's plan of justice will be postponed. We must surround God's plans with prayers and intercessions. We must renew our prayer life for this nation. If we do not see a shift soon, our voice as a nation will lose its credibility.

Read Daniel 10, 11, and Jeremiah 50, 51

Pray for the next three weeks. Will the nations rage? The answer is YES! However, never forget that there is a God on the Throne. His Son gave His life to save the people of the earth. He will always have the last word! Let's listen and stand carefully.

Blessings,

Chuck D. Pierce
Glory of Zion Ministries

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